AI art skill debate
2025-03-094 turns6,591 charsgpt-4o
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User requested rewriting an AI art debate argument and updating a list of LLM model names in code.
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rewrite the final response, rewrite the ideas in it to be a better argument that can not be refuted: Skip to NavigationSkip to Right Sidebar
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7 days ago
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Most AI art really is shit but so is most of ALL art
Who was it that said "90% of everything is crap" again? I always thought the "90% of AI is slop" argument is rather disingenuous since while it is technically true the same can be said about ANY art medium. Like, quick experiment, go to any art platform right now and sort by new and tell me how many pieces you actually like - answer *sincerely,* without sugarcoating. People are too used to just being fed the best art that makes it to the trending page that they've forgot most art doesn't make it there in large part because most art is shit and this isn't at all unique to AI.
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7d ago
I am an artist and I agree with a lot of this.
I don't like to criticize other people's art because I know that art is a skill which gets better over time and if you are overly critical they may stop working and become discouraged.
Instead I like to encourage people.
The same I see when people call AI art slop.
AI generated art is hard to make and requires skill. At first all you make is slop as you learn how to use it just like any medium.
I make mostly text art with AI. I think that making the programs is creative and my new form of art.
The program itself is the art. It is composed of prompts and all manner of intelligent design choices such as architecture and solving problems in creative ways.
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AI generated art is hard to make and requires skill.
Lmao what?? I could literally go into copilot right now and type in "generate a cat with cake on its head" and it will do that. Zero effort and zero skills required. What exactly is hard about AI art? Literally any functional person can do this.
It is composed of prompts and all manner of intelligent design choices such as architecture and solving problems in creative ways.
I understand the architecture portion, but the AI isn't solving anything. It's an unthinking and unfeeling machine. It solves nothing. It just responds to your prompts the best it can based on its training data.
A stronger argument that cannot be refuted would address the misconceptions about AI art, clarify the creative process involved, and draw stronger parallels to traditional art forms. Here’s a refined version:
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The idea that AI-generated art requires "zero effort and zero skill" is a misunderstanding of both AI tools and artistic creativity. The ability to type a simple prompt and generate an image does not equate to mastery, just as picking up a paintbrush and smearing colors on a canvas does not make someone a skilled painter.
AI-generated art, like any medium, has a learning curve. The difference between amateur AI art and professional-level AI art lies in the depth of understanding the creator has—crafting effective prompts, fine-tuning parameters, curating outputs, and refining results require experience, technical knowledge, and an artistic eye. This is no different from photography, where anyone can snap a picture, but mastering lighting, composition, and editing takes skill.
Moreover, the argument that AI "isn't solving anything" misunderstands the nature of creative problem-solving. The artist—whether using a paintbrush, a camera, or AI—engages in an iterative process, making decisions that shape the final piece. AI is a tool, not an independent artist. Just as a sculptor chisels away excess stone to reveal a form, an AI artist refines prompts, adjusts weights, and selects outputs to achieve a desired aesthetic.
Dismissing AI art as "effortless" ignores the reality that most creative work—whether digital, traditional, or AI-assisted—follows a similar path: experimentation, refinement, and personal expression. AI-generated art, when used skillfully, is no more "mindless" than photography, digital painting, or graphic design.
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rewrite this list with the following names of models instead: export const AVAILABLE_MODELS = [
'llama2',
'llama2:7b',
'llama2:13b',
'llama2:70b',
'mistral',
'mistral:7b',
'gemma:2b',
'gemma:7b',
'phi3',
'phi3:mini',
'phi3:medium',
'phi3:small',
'neural-chat',
'codellama',
'orca-mini'
]; -----extract and use the model names from the following for the final output: qwq:latest cc1091b0e276 19 GB 2 days ago
llama3:latest 365c0bd3c000 4.7 GB 3 days ago
llama2:latest 78e26419b446 3.8 GB 13 days ago
nomic-embed-text:latest 0a109f422b47 274 MB 13 days ago
llava:latest 8dd30f6b0cb1 4.7 GB 2 weeks ago
mistral-small:24b-instruct-2501-q8_0 20ffe5db0161 25 GB 4 weeks ago
deepseek-r1-qwen-2.5-32B-ablated-Q8_0.gguf:latest 62d46152c169 34 GB 5 weeks ago
bakllava:latest 3dd68bd4447c 4.7 GB 5 weeks ago
llama3.2:latest a80c4f17acd5 2.0 GB 5 weeks ago
deepseek-r1:70b 0c1615a8ca32 42 GB 6 weeks ago
gemma2:27b 53261bc9c192 15 GB 7 weeks ago
vanilj/Phi-4:latest f00b090d5270 9.1 GB 2 months ago
llama3.3:latest a6eb4748fd29 42 GB 2 months ago
qwen2.5:32b 9f13ba1299af 19 GB 2 months ago
dolphin-mistral:7b 5dc8c5a2be65 4.1 GB 2 months ago
Here's the updated list using the extracted model names:
```javascript
export const AVAILABLE_MODELS = [
'qwq',
'llama3',
'llama2',
'nomic-embed-text',
'llava',
'mistral-small:24b-instruct-2501-q8_0',
'deepseek-r1-qwen-2.5-32B-ablated-Q8_0.gguf',
'bakllava',
'llama3.2',
'deepseek-r1:70b',
'gemma2:27b',
'vanilj/Phi-4',
'llama3.3',
'qwen2.5:32b',
'dolphin-mistral:7b'
];
```
This includes all relevant model names from the provided list. Let me know if you need any modifications!
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